Pikes Peak, September 11, 2005.

This report was originated on KLR650.net, and is imported here with some editing for structure (due to the import process). Typos, etc., have mostly been left as they are, fixed only for clarity in some cases. The authors have been identified by their user names on that website. JKarp was the ride organizer. Martin is identified here as SgtMarty.
 

Unfortunately, Jkarp had a crash (with his wife, Sally, on board) after this Pikes Peak ride.  That part of this ride report has been left intact, even though it is off-topic, because it's important to keep these things in mind.  Also because the people we know matter to us.

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SgtMarty wrote:  With Jkarp's invitation, some of us rode Pikes Peak today. What a great day for the ride; warm, sunny, no wind, no clouds to speak of. Great!

MountainMan trailered his KLR down to meet us in Sedalia. Jkarp and wife Sally went 2-up on his KLR, I rode mine, and my wife Laurie rode her new Magna. A mid-morning meet, an easy ride down on and off pavement through Deckers and into Woodland Park for a breakfast stop, and we were ready for the Peak.





Here's Laurie.




MountainMan.




Jkarp and Sally.




We kept a lookout for bigfoot at the designated crossing.




Since it was Sunday, the mini-van and SUV fleets were thick. When one woman in a mini-van stopped in the traffic lane during the ascent to take pictures, I blared the horn at her (something I don't normally do) until her brains started working again. I took a few photos one-handed during the ride up.










A few shots at the top.

Me, Laurie, MountainMan, Sally, Jkarp.






A few more shots during the ride down. YardDog, TooTall, and I rode the Peak on July 25th, and were told that the paving would be all the way to the top by 2012. Well, in the last 6 weeks, they paved more of the lower road and several miles of the twisties above the Glen Cove rest area. Amazing progress.




All that pavement was done in the last 6 weeks.




MountainMan boogied back to head home while the rest of us chatted over lunch in Manitou Springs. These were the nicest conditions of any of my rides up Pikes Peak. Thanks to Jeff and Sally for the invite.

 

JudJonzz wrote:  Nice photos, Marty. I always get a kick out of the Pike's Peak ride, even with the SUV parade.
Does this mean that Laurie is going to tackle the Elephant Ride on the Magna?

 

SgtMarty wrote:  I am fairly confident that Laurie will never ride in the snow. You will see us again, though, since the camp out itself was worth it.

Laurie outgrew the Shadow Aero and added the VTX1300 earlier this year. She traded the Aero in for a lightly-used Magna just over a week ago. Now she's got the bigger VTX for the long rides and the Magna for local play. She toys with the idea of riding the Suzuki DR200SE in the dirt more, but I know that's not likely.

She did well on the dirt roads today; better than she had done in the past.  We'll see.

 

Jkarp wrote:  I sure wish our ride home was as fun as the ride there

We had the front tire blow out about 10mi south of Franktown doing about 60mph. Never even had a chance to slow down. Bike went into a vicious tankslapper and down we went. I was out for a bit, but EMS apparently arrived quick & hauled us back to Colorado Springs. Finally got out of there about 10pm. We've both got some rash, in spite of the full gear, and Sally's hand is badly bruised and swollen. Every single piece of our gear is shredded, from helmets to shoes. Must've been a hell of a spill.

I can live with the rash; have before. It's hurting my best friend and wife of 18 years that's killing me.

Bah.

 

Yard Dog wrote:  I hope you and your wife get healed quickly. -Ken.

 

SgtMarty wrote:   I'll post this one publicly.

Jeff, you did not hurt Sally. The laws of physics and chaos touched you, that's all.

Wonder what blew that tire out? Seems to be a rare incident. When you get a chance to examine it, let us know what you find.

 

Jkarp wrote:  She seems to know that more than me. She's even talking about riding again; just not on the KLR

Bike got towed to a yard in Castle Rock. I have a vague recollection of seeing someone pick the bike up and put it on the sidestand, so at least that works Too much pain and frequent rash dressing changes today to deal with it. Anyone in the Parker / Elizabeth / Castle Rock area got a bike trailer I could borrow for a day? I think I'd have a hell of a time wrestling it up and down out of the pickup with a flat front and no idea if it even runs...

No clue on why it blew. I'm one of those anal tire pressure types and check my bikes at least twice a week. I've even got a digital gage on my keychain. Pressures were good before we left Sunday, and although I didn't put a gage to them, I gave the tires a good squeeze before we left the restaurant. Only thing I can guess is we hit a big nail or something and it deflated instantly. I also believe while the KLR did the Peak great two-up, that much rear weight bias probably aggravated the tank-slapper. It went steering lock-to-lock twice and then down we went. We'll see in a few days. I'm sure I'll be scouring classifieds and eBay for deals on mirrors, shifters, etc. soon since I owned this bike outright and didn't carry collision on it.

Thanks again everyone for the kind words.

 

Mountain Man wrote:  What terrible news Jeff! I'm glad to hear that you and Sally are up and around. This could have been much much worse. What an awful ending to an otherwise fabulous day. Thanks a million for the invitation and the guided tour. I sure enjoyed the company of you and Sally and SgtMarty and Laurie. Best wishes to you both in the hope that all your sore spots go away quickly

 

armyicurn wrote:  Oh man! Can't wait to get my toy when I come back from Iraq. Great shots! Pikes Peak is my playground for many of the activities that I do.  What kind of camera did you use and how much did they charge you at the gate since you were on a bike?

 

SgtMarty wrote:   Okay, with all best wishes to Jeff and Sally, we'll return to the ride topic.

armyicurn, when do you get back? I've got several fellows from my police department over there right now. We are definitely missing them on the street.

The end of season sales prices may be coming soon, if you're in the market for a bike. Private sellers, too, may be selling their bikes. Are you at Ft. Carson?

I used a Canon A95 digital which has a nice "sports" setting for fast shutter speed emulation. Keep it in a tankbag pocket for quick one hand grab and shoot. Throttle lock helps, too.

I reduced the photos in size (and therefore, quality) for loading onto photobucket dot com, so those shown are not nearly as good as the originals. Don't know why some came out a different size. Odd.

Pikes Peak belongs to Colorado Springs, and is not a National Park as some find out at the gate. The cost is $10 per head, or $35 per carload. I know that the fees go to maintenance and staffing, and now to more paving (which I have strong mixed feelings about...), but still seems a bit steep for such a heavily-visited location.

 

armyicurn wrote:  Thanks for the prompt reply! Yes, I am at Carson and will definitively be looking to buy a bike this winter. I have been to the top a couple of times while backpacking. Before you know it, this mountain will be like Mount Evans

 

KLRTim wrote:  Hey, Marty. Thanks for the pics. What a bunch of incredible views. Makes me mad that I missed the Elephant Ride. It would've been fun! Here's to hopin' for a speedy recovery for JKarp and wife! Ride Safe!  -Tim

 

SgtMarty wrote:   Jeff, post what parts you need when you get an idea. We'll see if we can scrape things together for you. I've got my stock shifter on a shelf; you are welcome to it. As for mirrors... well, as you know, I go through them quickly myself.

For everyone else, those cheap ball-and-socket mirrors don't hold up well under a lot of heavy vibration. The mirror post is spot-welded to the ball on the end. Both of mine broke (a few weeks apart) while riding. Got one welded back to its mount (no more ball-and-socket flexibility) and will weld the other up tonight.

Again, back to the topic. Let's see if we as a community can help out. Freebies or cheap deals might be found.

Post a list, Jeff. I bet you'll be surprised.

 

Mountain Man wrote:  Nothing here is in focus...but I like the shot anyway.



Twisty road below.


I hope that you are healing fast Jeff and Sally

 

Jkarp wrote: OK, less than four hours after posting this, I've been hooked up with a kind soul with a trailer who lives not blocks from me.

You guys are scaring me!

Fortunately, our Canon SD300 survived the "exciting" ride home, so here's a few more pics from the Pikes Peak Ride. Full set (including gear carnage and one embarrassingly tough KLR pics) are here: http://www.red-shift.net/gallery/2005PikesPeakRide


SgtMarty, Laurie (Mrs. SgtMarty), MountainMan, Sally (Mrs. JKarp), and Jeff (JKarp) at Crystal Reservior.




Cog Railway sucking up tourists.




Gratuitous KLR beauty shot.




Glen Cove Inn checkpoint, just below timberline. They check for crispy car brakes here.




Roasted Aerostich Darien jacket. This is the 2nd time I've lost skin in Aerostich gear. I realize every accident is unique, but I also think it's reasonable to expect the top of the line textile gear to keep me from shedding hide in a 55 mph get-off. Think I'm going Kevlar or leather this go-around...




Here's why you wear a helmet.




Worst of the KLR damage. Fan shroud got bent in also, which means this tough puppy hit on both sides.


 

SgtMarty wrote:  Jeff, I can donate a turn signal and shifter. Also got a freebie certificate for one tire and mounting. Let me know when you want them.  Jeff, is your tank dented in? Looks like it in the photo, but can't be sure.

 

Jkarp wrote:  There's a tiny dent on the top if you follow the handguard bolt down. I think it came from my mp3 player bouncing around in the tank bag. Since the tank bag covers that spot I figure out of sight, out of mind

I'll take ya up on that rear signal - lemme know what I owe ya. Front tire looks fine. Unless something surprising shows up when I dismount it, I'm probably just gonna put a heavy duty tube in. Come to think of it, I'd better do the rear too, knowing my luck!

 

SgtMarty wrote:  Ya don't owe me anything. If you can stop by on the morning of the 24th, you can have whatever parts I have that you need. We'll be cranking on Simon's bike briefly and then riding somewhere.

Otherwise, I'll send it to you.

 

JudJonzz wrote:  Jeff, just a comment on the Aerostich gear. I think your Darien did a pretty decent job for you in a 55 mph get-off, considering its design and intended purpose. I have had a couple of Roadcrafters, crashed pretty hard in both of them, and sustained a lot less damage to the gear than your Darien took.

The Roadcrafter is the more protective of the two, uses heavier fabric, and bigger patches of ballistic nylon. A lot of track schools will allow the Roadcrafter (but not the Darien) in place of leathers. It is not necessarily the last word in crash protection, having advantages and disadvantages compared to good armored leathers. The Darien is intended more for touring, with a greater emphasis on comfort, warmth and weather protection.

I finally bought a Darien jacket, and I look forward to wearing it as the weather turns this fall. But if I'm planning to crash, I'll take the Roadcrafter every time.

 

Jkarp wrote:   Yeah, I'm not trying to bash 'stitch gear - its form and function is ideal for commuting, which is why I owned it twice. I'm also not denying that my own circumstances may be particularly unlucky and that every accident is unique. That said, I've still lost significant skin in what I consider two relatively "non squid" situations. Five years ago I low-sided at 35 mph and my Darien abraded through both forearms after sliding < 10ft before rolling. Aerostich said the jacket was totaled and they gave me a 15% discount on a new one. (Fortunately) I checked out for this get-off, so I don't know how I landed or how long I slid, but the back of my Darien scares the hell out of me. If that optional back protector wasn't in there (where the hole stops), I'd still be in the hospital in a serious world of hurt.

No argument that Aerostich is infinitely better than what too many riders wear (t-shirt and jeans), but in my current state of skillful karma deficiency I've got to find something better. Growing skin is frigging expensive - Tegaderm is $8 a box and it takes over a box to cover my various owies. By the time these are healed, I'll be out $500 easy. I'd much rather have used that $500 towards better gear and avoided the pain.

It's probably also worth mentioning that while the Roadcrafter does have double layered fabric over the elbows, shoulders, and knees, it's the exact same thickness and material over the back, so I'd have been in the same boat. Personally, I'd like to see Aerostich move up to a 650 or even 1000 Denier material like many other gear makers are using. My wife's JR at less than 1/2 the cost is considerably thicker and it showed as she fared much better.

 

MD_KLR wrote:  I'm really sorry to read what happened M8. I've had a few "get offs" myself thankfully not with my missus on board (the nearest I came was a "tankslapper" speed wobble at 110 mph on a GPZ 750 lock to lock taking up 3 lanes for about 1/4 of a mile till it died down at around 90 mph), someone was smiling down at us that day (and perhaps even for you). Anyway what I'm trying to say is the bike is a material possession, $$$’s can fix it, I'm just really glad to hear that you and your good partner can talk and reminisce about this mishap. I hope you and your missus get well really soon, and best of luck on any future excursions.

Aw Ra Best
Mark

 

Jkarp wrote:  Off topic, I know, but it seemed appropriate to post here with the original crash pics...



So I finally got the front tire off the KLR to see what the heck happened. Turns out Sally and I ate pavement thanks to a botched tire mounting. The installer pinched the tube with his tire iron, causing a partial tear several inches long. The additional stresses of riding the Peak two-up finally caused the tear to rupture, producing a hole about 1/2 inch long.

Lesson learned. Heavy duty tubes are going in both front and rear tires!

 

SgtMarty wrote:   Well, at least the mystery is solved. There was a reason for the failure, and knowing what it was is comforting (to a degree). At least it reduced the concern that it could happen suddenly for NO reason.

So, does somebody owe you a tire, and maybe more?